Saturday, March 03, 2007 |
Author: Julia
We started dreaming about finding our next boat a year and a half before we found Pisces, and we had many adventures along the way. What follows are the highlights of our search-the wonderful people, the interesting boats.
The First Physical Step
After months of perusing internet boat sales sites, and walking docks in the Bay area, our first physical step towards boat hunting was when we flew down to Los Angeles in spring 2006, to see a boat we'd been oogling on Yachtworld, a 31 foot Cape George cutter. Ruck the broker (who's cell phone was constantly ringing with "bad to the bone") also showed us a Nor'Sea down in Long Beach. We took advantage of our rental car, and drove up to Ventura to see a Williard 8-ton, and down to San Diego to see a famous Bristol Channel Cutter, Baba 30, another Nor'Sea, meeting Greg the broker (who called us for months afterwards with large expensive boats with teak decks). We came away from that whirlwind visit with our heads spinning in boats, costs, teak decks, transportation-buying a "real boat" was going to be a big deal!
We continued looking once we were back in the Bay, scouring Craigslist, Yachtworld, Latitude 38 for boats that might be "the one." Walking the docks became a weekend pasttime, driving to Sausalito, or the East Bay marinas, seeing which boats we liked, and thought we could trust with our lives. We left notes on people's boats with our phone number, asking them about their boats, we emailed people from class associations, and had some wonderful experiences.
Meeting generous enthusiasts
We had been researching Westsail 32s for a few months when we decided to see if there was an active association in the Bay. I contacted Jay, with Pygmalion, (A WS32 in Alameda) and he generously offered to take us out sailing for a day, and introduced us to another WS32 owner (Craig) who had gone to Hawaii.
We were also looking at Falmouth Cutters, the little sister to the expensive Bristol Channel Cutter. We went and met Ron at his boat in Alameda, and loved the tiny, beautiful craftsmanship of the boat.
A Cabo Rico was posted for sail on Craigslist. It was out of our price range, but such a beautiful boat that we wanted to see it just in case. The owner kindly offered to take us for a sail, and the boat was perfect under sail. On the way back in to the marina the engine quit, we had to anchor in the channel and were towed in by the Harbor Master. A lesson to be careful with engines.
Summer of Boats
Everywhere we went over the summer, we met cruising enthusiasts who shared their experience and knowledge.
We saw (this is not a comprehensive list):
Ingrid 38
Tayana 37
Roughwater 33
Williard 8T
Cape George Cutter 31
Bristol Channel Cutter
Nor'Sea 27 (2)
Bounty II (2)
Alberg 35
Bristol 40
Nicholson 31
Cabo Rico 38
Sabre 36
Baba 30
Flicka
Morris Frances
Freya 40
Valiant 32
Cal 34
Islander36
Contessa 32
Pacific Seacraft 25
Pacific Seacraft Dana
Shannon 28
Making our first offer
In August 2006 we took a trip up to Port Townsend, to see a Nicholson 31. It was the first boat we had seen that could be the one. But it didn't sit exactly right-we couldn't put our finger on it. There was also a beautiful little Francis next to it in the lot that was very distracting. We made an offer through Larry the broker, but it all fell apart in the negotiation stages. We cancelled our tickets to go up for the survey, and told the surveyor the deal had fallen through. Everything we looked at after that was compared to the Nic 31. Had we made a mistake in walking away?
Cal 34
A Cal 34 was posted on Yachtworld for a great price. It was ready for cruising, had been cruised down from the Northwest, but due to family illness the couple had to abandon their cruise. Ironically, it was for sale through the same broker (George, with the slogan "Everyone needs a bigger boat") that we had bought our first boat from (a Cal 29). The price was great, we knew Cals, the weak points and the strong, it would put to rest our desire to take our Cal 29. Jacob went to look at it, and took me back the next weekend. We made an offer. Then did the numbers. Although it was a great price, our gut feeling was that the boat wasn't the right boat for us. The clinching reason: There was very little room for storage. It was difficult to imagine where we could store the spares, safety gear, food, and other things that we will want to bring along.
We pulled out of the offer.
December 2006
It was almost the end of the month, we'd been searching for a whole year, and were about to go to New Zealand for Christmas. We'd just pulled out of the Cal 34 offer, and were constantly debating the differences between the Cal 34 and the Nicholson 31 (which was still for sale): two ends of the spectrum.
Jacob saw that a Jason 35 in Oxnard had significantly lowered their asking price. We'd looked at the listing before, but dismissed it because of it's high price. We were just a week too late on another Jason 35 earlier in the year in the Pacific Northwest, and were always keeping our eyes out for them. Jacob bought a one day ticket to LA and went to see Pisces two days before we were leaving for New Zealand.
He came home exhausted and exhilarated. He showed me all the pictures, and the boat was beautiful. But I was hesitant, it was on the upper limit of our price range, I didn't want to end up with the perfect boat but with no money to be able to leave and cruise.
We talked for hours about how we could make it work, what were we going to do.
We decided to go for it, and made an offer (which we mailed on the way to the airport to go to New Zealand).
January 2007
We interviewed surveyors over the phone from New Zealand, and found Ross Hubbard, who we knew was the right surveyor when he said "oh, I know that boat, they were right next to my boat in the yard, and I saw him working on it. I would love to inspect the work that he did." So Ross cancelled his existing survey for the day and the weekend we got back from New Zealand, we went down to Pisces for the survey and haul. It was a big step, we were making an offer on a boat that I'd never seen that was at the top of our price range. I was nervous. But as soon as I saw Pisces I knew. She was the one.
The First Physical Step
After months of perusing internet boat sales sites, and walking docks in the Bay area, our first physical step towards boat hunting was when we flew down to Los Angeles in spring 2006, to see a boat we'd been oogling on Yachtworld, a 31 foot Cape George cutter. Ruck the broker (who's cell phone was constantly ringing with "bad to the bone") also showed us a Nor'Sea down in Long Beach. We took advantage of our rental car, and drove up to Ventura to see a Williard 8-ton, and down to San Diego to see a famous Bristol Channel Cutter, Baba 30, another Nor'Sea, meeting Greg the broker (who called us for months afterwards with large expensive boats with teak decks). We came away from that whirlwind visit with our heads spinning in boats, costs, teak decks, transportation-buying a "real boat" was going to be a big deal!
We continued looking once we were back in the Bay, scouring Craigslist, Yachtworld, Latitude 38 for boats that might be "the one." Walking the docks became a weekend pasttime, driving to Sausalito, or the East Bay marinas, seeing which boats we liked, and thought we could trust with our lives. We left notes on people's boats with our phone number, asking them about their boats, we emailed people from class associations, and had some wonderful experiences.
Meeting generous enthusiasts
We had been researching Westsail 32s for a few months when we decided to see if there was an active association in the Bay. I contacted Jay, with Pygmalion, (A WS32 in Alameda) and he generously offered to take us out sailing for a day, and introduced us to another WS32 owner (Craig) who had gone to Hawaii.
We were also looking at Falmouth Cutters, the little sister to the expensive Bristol Channel Cutter. We went and met Ron at his boat in Alameda, and loved the tiny, beautiful craftsmanship of the boat.
A Cabo Rico was posted for sail on Craigslist. It was out of our price range, but such a beautiful boat that we wanted to see it just in case. The owner kindly offered to take us for a sail, and the boat was perfect under sail. On the way back in to the marina the engine quit, we had to anchor in the channel and were towed in by the Harbor Master. A lesson to be careful with engines.
Summer of Boats
Everywhere we went over the summer, we met cruising enthusiasts who shared their experience and knowledge.
We saw (this is not a comprehensive list):
Ingrid 38
Tayana 37
Roughwater 33
Williard 8T
Cape George Cutter 31
Bristol Channel Cutter
Nor'Sea 27 (2)
Bounty II (2)
Alberg 35
Bristol 40
Nicholson 31
Cabo Rico 38
Sabre 36
Baba 30
Flicka
Morris Frances
Freya 40
Valiant 32
Cal 34
Islander36
Contessa 32
Pacific Seacraft 25
Pacific Seacraft Dana
Shannon 28
Making our first offer
In August 2006 we took a trip up to Port Townsend, to see a Nicholson 31. It was the first boat we had seen that could be the one. But it didn't sit exactly right-we couldn't put our finger on it. There was also a beautiful little Francis next to it in the lot that was very distracting. We made an offer through Larry the broker, but it all fell apart in the negotiation stages. We cancelled our tickets to go up for the survey, and told the surveyor the deal had fallen through. Everything we looked at after that was compared to the Nic 31. Had we made a mistake in walking away?
Cal 34
A Cal 34 was posted on Yachtworld for a great price. It was ready for cruising, had been cruised down from the Northwest, but due to family illness the couple had to abandon their cruise. Ironically, it was for sale through the same broker (George, with the slogan "Everyone needs a bigger boat") that we had bought our first boat from (a Cal 29). The price was great, we knew Cals, the weak points and the strong, it would put to rest our desire to take our Cal 29. Jacob went to look at it, and took me back the next weekend. We made an offer. Then did the numbers. Although it was a great price, our gut feeling was that the boat wasn't the right boat for us. The clinching reason: There was very little room for storage. It was difficult to imagine where we could store the spares, safety gear, food, and other things that we will want to bring along.
We pulled out of the offer.
December 2006
It was almost the end of the month, we'd been searching for a whole year, and were about to go to New Zealand for Christmas. We'd just pulled out of the Cal 34 offer, and were constantly debating the differences between the Cal 34 and the Nicholson 31 (which was still for sale): two ends of the spectrum.
Jacob saw that a Jason 35 in Oxnard had significantly lowered their asking price. We'd looked at the listing before, but dismissed it because of it's high price. We were just a week too late on another Jason 35 earlier in the year in the Pacific Northwest, and were always keeping our eyes out for them. Jacob bought a one day ticket to LA and went to see Pisces two days before we were leaving for New Zealand.
He came home exhausted and exhilarated. He showed me all the pictures, and the boat was beautiful. But I was hesitant, it was on the upper limit of our price range, I didn't want to end up with the perfect boat but with no money to be able to leave and cruise.
We talked for hours about how we could make it work, what were we going to do.
We decided to go for it, and made an offer (which we mailed on the way to the airport to go to New Zealand).
January 2007
We interviewed surveyors over the phone from New Zealand, and found Ross Hubbard, who we knew was the right surveyor when he said "oh, I know that boat, they were right next to my boat in the yard, and I saw him working on it. I would love to inspect the work that he did." So Ross cancelled his existing survey for the day and the weekend we got back from New Zealand, we went down to Pisces for the survey and haul. It was a big step, we were making an offer on a boat that I'd never seen that was at the top of our price range. I was nervous. But as soon as I saw Pisces I knew. She was the one.
3 comments:
Hi Julia:
Thanks for the mention in your blog and using my photo of you and Jacob - cool.
Congrt's on the engagement.
Jay
I am doing similar research.
I have narrowed the list to a Jason35,southern cross31,Aries 32,.
The BCC 28 and the Cape George 31 are beyond my price range.
How happy are you with your choice.
How Pices handles rough weather.Balance under sail. How does it goes to wind? confort motion?
There is one for sale with teak decks and I rather not have that. I prefer a tiller to a wheel.
Thank you for your help
Miguel
Hi Miguel,
The decision of which boat is right is highly personal, and also depends a good deal on where you will be sailing the boat (not just in your mind but where you actually end up taking the boat). We see lots of people on 'character' boats (like pirate ships), 'cruisy' boats (like Jason's and Tayanas), and 'plastic' boats (like Catalinas and Beneteaus). Everyone seems pretty happy.
The Jason 35 is a great boat, I highly recommend you join the Jason 35 owners group (link on the blog sidebar) and ask your questions of the broader group there, you'll get a wider variety of opinions than we can offer you alone.
Happy boat-hunting!
Jacob